Squad Watch: Week 9. Stadiums Closed Until Further Notice.
It seems that there are only idiots in Polish football. And no, this time I’m not talking about Smuda and his associates. The idiots are the ones involved in the fights after the Polish Cup final in Bydgoszcz and the ones who, as a result, decided to close the stadiums in Poznań and Warsaw. As always, the Polish government has no idea how to deal with the hooligans not hurting the ordinary fans at the same time.
Artur Boruc (Fiorentina): 90 minutes against Inter
Tomasz Kuszczak (ManUtd): on the bench against Chelsea
Sebastian Małkowski (Lechia Gdańsk): on the bench against Wisła
Grzegorz Sandomierski (Jagiellonia Bialystok): 90 minutes against Widzew, note 5
Wojciech Szczęsny (Arsenal London): 90 minutes against Stoke
Przemyslaw Tytoń (Roda Kerkrade): no match
Łukasz Załuska (Celtic Glasgow): on the bench against Kilmarmock
Blażej Augustyn (Catania): not in the squad against Brescia
Piotr Brożek (Trabzonspor): not in the squad against Bucaspor
Piotr Celeban (Śląsk Wrocław): 90 minutes against Polonia B., note 6
Dariusz Dudka (AJ Auxerre): 90 minutes against Montpellier
Kamil Glik (Bari): not in the squad against Palermo, red card ban
Arkadiusz Głowacki (Trabzonspor): 90 minutes against Bucaspor
Tomasz Jodłowiec (Polonia Warsaw): 90 minutes against Cracovia, note 4
Marcin Kikut (Lech Poznań): not in the squad against Widzew, injury
Łukasz Piszczek (Borussia Dortmund): 90 minutes against Werder
Jakub Rzeźniczak (Legia Warsaw): 90 minutes against Korona, note 6
Maciej Sadlok (Polonia Warsaw): on the bench against Cracovia
Marcin Wasilewski (Anderlecht): not in the squad against Genk
Grzegorz Wojtkowiak (Lech Poznań): 90 minutes against Widzew, note 6
Hubert Wołąkiewicz (Lech Poznań): 90 minutes against Górnik, note 7
Michał Żewłakow (free transfer): cancelled his contract with Ankaragucu
Tomasz Bandrowski (Lech Poznan): not in the squad against Górnik, injury
Jakub Błaszczykowski (Borussia Dortmund): 34 minutes against Werder
Ariel Borysiuk (Legia Warsaw): 74 minutes against Korona, note 5
Mateusz Cetnarski (GKS Belchatow): 33 minutes and an assist against Arka, note 6
Tomasz Cywka (Derby County): not in the squad against Reading
Janusz Gol (Legia Warsaw): 90 minutes against Korona, note 6
Roger Guerreiro (AEK Athens): 56 minutes against Olympiakos Volos
Maciej Iwański (Manisaspor): not in the squad against Gaziantespor, injury
Jacek Kiełb (Lech Poznań): 90 minutes against Górnik, note 5
Tomasz Kupisz (Jagiellonia Bialystok): 90 minutes against Widzew, note 4
Grzegorz Krychowiak (Stade Reims): 90 minutes against Nimes
Radosław Majewski (Nottingham Forest): on the bench against Crystal Palace
Patryk Małecki (Wisla Krakow): 90 minutes against Lechia, note 5
Adam Matuszczyk (FC Koeln): on the bench against Eintracht
Adrian Mierzejewski (Polonia Warsaw): 90 minutes against Cracovia, note 7
Rafał Murawski (Lech Poznań): not in the squad against Górnik, injury
Ludovic Obraniak (Lille): not in the squad against Nancy, banned for misbehaviour
Sławomir Peszko (FC Koeln): not in the squad against Eintracht, injury
Maciej Rybus (Legia Warsaw): 16 minutes against Korona, note 5
Bartosz Salamon (Foggia): not in the squad against Taranto
Cezary Wilk (Wisła Kraków): 90 minutes against Lechia, note 6
Paweł Brożek (Trabzonspor): 62 minutes against Bucaspor
Kamil Grosicki (Sivasspor): 23 minutes against Ankaragucu
Michał Janota (Go Ahead Eagles): 90 minutes against AGOVV
Ireneusz Jeleń (AJ Auxerre): 76 minutes against Montpellier
Michał Kucharczyk (Legia Warsaw): 90 minutes against Korona, note 5
Robert Lewandowski (Borussia Dortmund): 76 minutes against Werder
Andrzej Niedzielan (Korona Kielce): 90 minutes against Legia, note 4
Dawid Nowak (GKS Belchatow): 90 minutes and a goal against Arka, note 6
Szymon Pawłowski (Zagłębie Lubin): 87 minutes against Ruch, note 5
Dawid Plizga (Zagłębie Lubin): 90 minutes and an assist against Ruch, note 5
Marcin Robak (Konyaspor): 90 minutes against Genclerbirligi
Ebi Smolarek (Polonia Warsaw): 90 minutes and a goal against Cracovia, note 6
Artur Sobiech (Polonia Warsaw): 90 minutes against Cracovia, note 4
Summary: The tension surrounding the fans’ organizations in Poland has been clearly felt lately. First, there was an assault of the leader of Lech Poznań fans (Wiara Lecha), Litar, on the family who came to watch the Poland vs. Ivory Coast game and were ‘careless’ enough to buy tickets for the behind the goal stand. They were so irresponsible that they even wore the national team colours during the national team game. Not to be outdone, the leader of the Legia Warsaw fans, Staruch, assaulted his own player, Jakub Rzeźniczak, after one of the less successful games. Since we live in the times of CCTV and video cameras in mobile phones, both incidents were recorded and presented in the media. Consequently, the government had to take a stance and promise that they’d solve the football hooligans problem, as this was something the society expected of them at this point. Even though it was only talk, not undertaking any action, on the government side, the fans reacted very energetically and started undermining the prime minister’s Donald Tusk policy. On numerous Ekstraklasa stadiums you could spot the banner that the fans (‘kibole’) are only an imaginary problem and that Tusk uses it to hide his incompetence and draw the media’s attention to something else. So far so good, at this point I was more convinced by the fans’ point of view. Don’t get me wrong, I’d happily get rid of rude behavior and people like Litar or Staruch from Polish stadiums. I also don’t want the fans’ organizations to be in control of the stadiums since they are first to defend their own interests, not the interests of the other spectators. At the same time, I think the crusade against the fans went too far and at one point all people interested in football and attending the games regularly were associated with a mindless troglodyte who is just looking for an opportunity to punch somebody in the face. I was on the fans’ side, until some of them proved too imbecile to be treated seriously.
I wasn’t in Poland at the time of the Polish Cup final, but I read and watched as much as possible after I came back. From day one, the FA’s idea to organize the game between the two teams whose fans hate each other in Bydgoszcz was an irresponsible one. Still, I thought that in the wake of the recent government’s witch hunt aimed at the fans the latter would be able to answer with great atmosphere and prove that they can support their teams without threatening anybody or anything. Once again, the fans’ organizations proved not, well, organized enough to be trusted. The Legia fans entered the pitch after the game and the Lech fans reacted with demolishing the stadium and attacking the security service. Even the TV studio was destroyed in this violent frenzy. As the saying in Poland goes: ‘you presented yourself very nicely in front of millions of viewers’. Surely, after such a great presentation of fans’ culture and harmlessness nobody would even touch them. If they thought in this manner they may be bigger idiots than I thought them to be. Consequently, the government reacted in the worst possible way, that is by closing the stadiums in Warsaw and Poznań. Once again, thousands of fans had to pay for the idiocy of the hundreds. The police said that they can’t guarantee safety on the stadiums, but somehow they had no problems with it before the Bydgoszcz incident. It was clearly a political decision, a one ordered by the prime minister. He wanted to show that he can do something, but in fact he showed the weakness of his own state apparatus. It is the police who should be able to do something, catch the criminals posing as fans on the spot and sentence them as soon as possible. Closing down the stadiums only shows that the police is not able to do their work properly. By his decision Tusk wanted to put pressure on the clubs; no spectators means no money for them. However, I wouldn’t be surprised if the clubs were compensated after they sue the government, which would be considered the biggest loser in this situation. At this point, the only result of the stadium closure is chaos and the further defamation of Polish football.
I agree that the hooligans have to be eliminated. They are people who break the law and should face the consequences for it. The saddest thing, however, is that nobody in power in Poland has any idea about how to deal with the problem. We’ve got a year left till the Euros. I don’t want to be ashamed in front of the rest of the world in 2012.
Ps: I promise to write about football next time.
Ps 2: I haven’t been allocated any tickets for the Euros…but my sister has. I’m sure to see the quarter final in Warsaw. I’ll have to fight for the other tickets though, Any luck on your side?
Posted from United States
I fear you won’t have much trouble finding tickets Tomasz. After watching this, people will be dissuaded to go to Poland to watch a soccer game, even if it is the Euros.
Don’t worry the Poles know who to pick on they won’t pull that shit vs Germany, or England.
Posted from United States
Ummm Last time Poland played England a fight was organised in a perk near the stadiums and lots of English Hooligans ended up in hospital. So I dont think they would be disuaded by England or Germany only encouraged.
Posted from Poland
Posted from Poland
I was in Aus when they played Germany and they didn’t do shit. The only time they start trouble is when they play teams in lithuania, where the opp has two fans.
Posted from United States
The problems with the pseudo-fans are really depressing. But even though the government’s action seems politically driven, it’s right to pressurise clubs in this case.
As a matter of fact, anytime a big stadium browl occurs, there is no-one to take the responsibility for poor organisation or ignoring the safety procedures. PZPN and Ekstraklasa SA continually keep blaming each other with their managment displaying impotency so outrageous, one can only wonder how the f*uck such eunuchs ever got to lead such big institutions.
In the meantime, the clubs tolerate organised groups of fans terrorising the more civilised crowd, like in Lódź, where Widzew’s hools forced a whole sector of people to leave their seats to join a protest against the government’s policy. The club authorities of course had no idea what was going on, but after some journalist’s intervention, promised to ‘look into the matter’. As they always do.
Some clubs even cooperate with the hooligans, like in Poznań, where Wiara Lecha runs the stands of the stadium. Or in Warszawa, where the fans are allowed to terrorise the players nad the club – instead of acting strongly to defend their own workers – mediates between the bandit who slapped Rzeźniczak and the player. In comparison, when a woman is raped, do you try to get her and the rapist to make up or do you protect the victim? This is disgraceful and the leck of respect towards the players showed by the clubs nad the players themselves (just take a look at the interviews about the problem with Wawrzyniak or more recently, Arka’s captain).
And that’s only part of the clubs’ sins as they regularly let the law be violated during the games by allowing flares in the stadiums and many other minor offences. Until the clubs set a clear limit to how the fans can actually influence the policy of the managments, the right balance won’t be estabilished.
And I don’t blame the police so much. After all, they cannot not rely on the club’s information when it comes to telling a fan from a hooligan.
The issue is complex because it requires the cooperation of many, many institutions, including the courts of law. So far, the hooligans’ ogranisation and unity has won them a lot of ground.
I like Kuszczak but he looked like crap today
Hopefully he will find a mid-level EPL team so he can get regular playing time.
- see video link below
Piszczek & Lewy had nice assists
The second goal was an own goal ( not Lewandowski’s)
Dortmund highlights below.
Ya i heard Kuszczak had a really bad game, but it looks like he’s gonna go to West Brom in the premier league next season. (Kuszczaks old club)
And it looks like Borussia Dortmund have joined the race to sign Jelen, AS Monaco, Rubin Kazan, Olympiacos and Schalke are all apparently interested.
Where would Jelen fit in Dortmund’s team? I don’t see him going there as he would end up as a substitute, if it’s up to him. Though from a managerial point of view, it make sense to add another attacking option going into a title defense and entering the Champion’s League foray.
there’s a lot of talk that Barrios will want to move, and some clubs like Real Madrid might make offers that cannot be refused haha. Then Jelen would be competing with Lewy for the main striker role, I would think, and as Jelen seldom stays healthy maybe a rotation would be good for them.
Obraniak came through in the clutch today for Lille in the French Cup
Posted from United States
^ an awesome goal by Ludo:
“Lille… ending their 56 year trophy drought. Ludovic Orbaniak the hero.” http://www.livefootballol.com/highlights/french/cup-lille-psg-14-05-2011.html
Posted from United States
Wow, lets hope for wonder goal like that from him during the Euros!
Posted from Canada
Did any of you guys see the call ups from abroad…Still, no Damien Perques….although a much better prospect called up Kamil Glik – NOT! Again and again he picks these bad players…Glowacki is back hope he can survive the first half without being injured. Kamil Grosicki is also called up eventhough hes been out of form..Boruc obvious call up is not made..instead just Szczesny. Dudka got the call – can we use him where he plays or will mastermind put him at DM again….I was really hoping to see Perques make his debut but once again nothing is surprising same old bullshit here
I was really hoping to see players like Krychowiak and Majewski get a fair shot… hell even Roger probably belongs on the call-up list. And Glik really shouldn’t have a solidified place on the NT from what he’s shown, I completely agree with that.
Is Sebastian Madera from Widzew ever going to get a call up, or was all the hubaloo surrounding him just nonsense?
Posted from United States
Can’t understand Glik being included again..but much of Smuda’s decisions goes the same way for me.
Grosicki needs time on the pitch to show us what he can do, doesn’t do any good to just put him on in the last 10 minutes.
Dudka has been great lately and I hope it will transfer to his NT performance. Smuda has got to stop fooling around and play ALL the players in their natural postions.
Roger gone already? Glad Piszczek is in. Was also hoping to see Perquis finally!
Good choices on the Goalkeepers at least.
@Hieronim – I really hope so about Madera…as he has been playing well same thing goes for Wawyrzniak who also plays well…but we wont see the Ekstraklasa call ups until the end of the month so we will have to wait. I hope some nice suprises are included which are other than Sadlok and Jodlowiec. Our defense needs some new blood and so does our offense. Its hard to call up Majewski as he sits on the bench, but I agree with you they need to get called up too. Smuda picks Obraniak who sits on the bench as well….we all know these guys on different teams would start….Roger is sitting as well…so no form there..and your right about Krychowiak needs to get called up!
the latest game that Grosicki played he gave a assist, so he not in a bad form.
Kuba Lewandowski Obraniak
@PIPA is that a joke? He gave an assist..so what? He hasn’t scored since late February!!! That’s almost 3 months…anyways if that is good form I don’t know what is?
What I will tell you is this, if Grosicki does well this weekend he can give the Polish triangle at Trabzonspor the title in Turkey…it comes down to the final game of the year.
If the Brozeks and Glowacki team can win and Sivasspor can upset Fenerbache with the help of Grosicki then we have three more polish players as champions this year joing BVB.
Pipa your lineup is not gonna work when Perques and Boenish is not called up unless this is your vision for Euro 2012…
Nee het is geen grap. Ik vind Grosicki goed, heb de vorige wedstrijd gezien voetballen, en hij was dreigend, en zorgde voor veel goede passen, maar zijn teamgenoten waren zo slecht om het niet af te maken. Als hij maar assists blijft gegeven vind ik het goed. Ik vind hem iedergeval 2 keer beter dan Peszko.
Voor de rest wil ik dan Glik opdonderd uit het Nationele team..
Translate it with google Dutch-English:P I’m too lazy to write in english haha (my english is not so good also)
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