Sebastian Przyrowski To Tottenham. Is It Possible?
It all started yesterday when Polska the Times came up with a sensational information about an upcoming transfer of Polonia Warsaw’s goalie Sebastian Przyrowski to Tottenham. Today we learn that this move is regarded as possible even by English journalists. Is it another example of a made up story or should we start to get excited?
I didn’t report this rumour earlier because, well, I found it laughable at first. The whole original Polska the Times’ article was based on Polonia’s manager, Jacek Zielinski, statement that “Sebastian won’t move to Red Bull Salzburg because he’s got an offer from a better league”. Then Polska’s journalists phoned two Polonia officials who failed to confirm the rumour and the player himself who stated that he didn’t know anything about it and didn’t want to be bothered. Przyrowski’s manager said that they’re negotiating with a number of clubs, but didn’t confirm that Tottenham is one of them. So how the hell did the journalists come up with the White Hart Lane club? As always, it was their secret “sources”. On the other hand, from today’s Gazeta Wyborcza we learn that the tranfer isn’t as science-fiction like as it initially seems. First of all, Przyrowski has all the qualities of a goalie that Tottenham is currently looking for (a backup keeper that is); good skills and the right age and price tag. The Tottenham officials are supposedly unhappy with their nr 2 choice (Cesar Sanchez, a former Real Madrid player) and want to buy somebody who would rival Heurelho Gomes for the nr 1 blouse. The Brazilian keeper himself isn’t having the best of times at White Hart Line, especially when you consider how well he used to perform at PSV Eindhoven. From this perspective, Przyrowski’s transfer rumour seems quite well grounded. On the other hand, I can’t remember any trustworthy English source confirming it. Finally, Birmingham, Nottingham Forrest and Bordeaux are also reported to be interested in Przyrowski’s services. This whole Tottenham rumour may be just used to speed up negotiations that are already under way. The goalie’s manager says that the case should be solved in the next couple of days.
Other news: Surprise, surprise; former Polish national team member, Tomasz Zdebel, signed a half year contract with Bayer Leverkusen. To make it more unbelievable, it happened after he was relegated to Bochum’s reserves. The Leverkusen club probably needed to add some experience to their side.
The Scottish press is trying harder and harder to sell Artur Boruc. This time it’s Atletico Madrid, who are supposedly planning to replace Leo Franco with Artie during the summer transfer window. I have nothing new to add about Boruc’s everlasting transfer saga; if it’s a better league, do it!
Everton’s Lukas Jutkiewicz has prepared all the papers needed to acquire Polish citizenship. He also declared that he wants to play for the Polish national team. It is not known how long will it take for him to officially become a Pole.
Under the last post Zaraza writes that West Ham, Chelsea and Real Madrid are all interested in a 17 year old Brescia midfielder Bartosz Salamon. I’m yet to read a comprehensive article about him in the Polish press. It’s high time somebody contacted him, his manager and Brescia coaching staff so that we learn more about the guy.
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Is Zdebel still Polish? I’m pretty sure I remember reading that new German laws require all adults to choose between German and any other citizenship they may have, and since Zdebel is still a German citizen, that would mean he gave up his Polish nationality…
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trust my scouting skills, and i’m tellin ya’ - salamon is the one to watch…
and about seba - as long as skyports got nothing to say - its all bullshit
btw check myblogz ![]()
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Zdebel is Polish. Played 14 times for Poland ![]()
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Some news from english newspapaer:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/tottenham/4162833/Tottenham-tracking-Sebastian-Przyrowski.html
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/article2111762.ece
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/article5469913.e
but the best one is maybe:
http://www.goal.com/en/news/699/tottenham/2009/01/07/1048992/tottenham-tracking-sebastian-przyrowski




I know but what I’m asking is whether he gave up his Polish citizenship. Or perhaps my memory is muddled and people with German citizenship don’t have to choose, in any case I would appreciate if someone could clarify this whole issue.
Checking Google News for updates on the Salamon transfer speculation, didn’t find any new articles on that topic, but it appears the Italian press is saying that he’s very likely to get some playing time today against Sassuolo.
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From what I know, if you’re born in Poland, of two Polish parents, you’ll keep your citizenship forever. Even without a Polish passport. I’m not 100% sure on that though, however I’m not officialy a Polish citizen, since I was born in the Netherlands, even if both my parents are Polish.
Lukas Podolski for example has the Polish citizenship.
In Germany, from what I know, you can only have 1 passport. So yeah,
Zdebel probably only has German passport. But still has the Polish citizenship.
I’m not 100% sure if this is completely correct though.




Speaking of Salamon, we can’t forget about Robert Trznadel, Błażej Augustyn, Daniel Goluch or even Kokoszka.
I think that the younger the get to teams in stronger leagues the better. Its up to the PZPN to keep and eye on all of them.




According to the Wiki article “German nationality law”, to hold onto your German citizenship, you have to prove that you have “renounced” any other citizenship. So both Podolski and Zdebel specifically Polish officials to cancel the citizenship they were entitled to.
In my view, if someone has gone to the effort of renouncing their Polish citizenship for no reason (Poland is part of the EU now after all), then it’s very probable they don’t feel any attachment to Poland.
The name change (Tomasz to Thomas), and the fact that he refused to come back to the Polish NT when Janas asked him, also suggest that he doesn’t feel a connection to Poland.
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That was supposed to be “specifically *asked* Polish officials to”
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Trznadel has returned to Poland, apparently he’s now playing for Gornik Zabrze’s youth team.
This seems to the most up-to-date list of Polish players abroad
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polscy_pi%C5%82karze_wyst%C4%99puj%C4%85cy_za_granic%C4%85_(sezon_2008/2009)
Not sure about the German section though… I think some of the youth players haven’t yet chosen Poland.
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There exists exceptions on the whole “renouncing thing” though, and from what I know Polish nationalities belong to that. Since Polish nationalities cannot be renounced by Polish law. My aunt for example lives in Germany for a long time and she still has her Polish nationality. Again, not completely sure, but would make sense.
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I don’t think there’s an exception for Poles. There was a report a while back that the Polish PM wanted to strip Podolski of his Polish citizenship, (that shows it is possible under Polish law to lose your citizenship) but apparently Podolski said he didn’t have it. Someone on a forum explained that Polish Germans have to give up their Polish nationality if they want to remain German citizens and apparently that’s what Podolski did. I doubt there would be a special exception for Zdebel.
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There you go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_nationality_law
Says quite clearly that the government cannot revoke someone’s citizenship.
Only if the a citizen self doesn’t want to be Polish anymore, he can renunciate it. That requires a lot of work, and takes years. I’d guess that the German government wouldn’t bother with it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_nationality_law : There is stated that the German government makes an exception for those whose nationality is difficult to renounce. The Polish one is hard to renounce, since like I said, it takes lot’s of paper work and a long time.
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http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomasz_Zdebel
Also here it says he has both nationalities.
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Any idea when the new Nike kits will be shown?




^Fuck off dumb spammers -_- This blog is awesome, and you won’t ruin it.
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I hope that I dealt with that spammer. Coming back to Przyrowski, he confirmed yesterday that he was on a week’s trial at White Hart Lane. Now it’s all up to Tottenham and Polonia to agree terms, provided Przyrowski turned out good enough for the Spurs.
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@aalms
Is your scouting based on football manager? ![]()
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^Actually it’s quite surprising how many young talented players in FM (who’re not know yet) become good footballers in real life.
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