Ludovic Obraniak Eligible For Poland.

Hell, I still get laughed at for being Polish from my class mates, saying things like Poles still using spears and horses during the world wars, and then laughing in my face when I try to explain them it’s not true at all. And this is in the Netherlands, one of the more tolerant countries. Don’t want to experience how it is in countries like Germany, UK or the US.

Posted from  Netherlands

I can only confirm Wichniareks statement, that Poles are not respected in Germany. This is also a aspect why I don’t like Germans.

I wasn’t aware that Poles are stupid jokes were made in other countries. Living in the US, you hear a lot of jokes about how stupid Poles are. That, along with the fact that when they teach history in the US, Poland’s history is overlooked. Its like Poland never contributed anything to the world. Even Copernius isn’t always identified as Polish. Most people here probably think he was Italian.

^This. We discussed communism at history, and not even one word was told about Poland, despite the fact that they were one of the main factors of the destruction of communism. I did educate him a bit by making my history project about communism in Poland, and he promised me he’ll try to tell a little bit about it on future lessons

Holy shit Tomek I am pretty naive then because I would have put money on that it would have been different in the Netherlands.Learned something today,thats always a good thing.LOL
As far as football awesome games todat CSKA Moscow looked very good cant wait for the Lech game.

Go Lech Poznan

Go Poland

Posted from  United States

Hey we scored

were up 16 minutes in

Posted from  United States

hi my polish friends.
I feel I must get on my soap box here and add this comment sorry its not about football.
When I first came to England 3 years ago from Australia the first friendly people I met were the Polish that live in London. Before meeting the Polish I knew very little about your great country other then the betrayal and genocide your people suffered during w w 2. My fiancé opened my eyes to the brave and vital importance your courageous men and women have done in fighting for Poland, England (polish pilots), Europe and the world as you were the first allies. In my time here I have made friends with many aussies, poms (english), kiwis (new zealanders) and south africans but the ones I chose to live with, drink with and marry are the polish. My soon to be wife is polish and she has inspired me to not just love my adopted country but developed a passionate interest in the history of the country. Your heroes have legacies all over the world such as Australia’s largest mountain is named after Kościuszko and then there’s the role he played in the battle of west point. But that not new news to you im sure.

if I can recommend a book then I suggest ‘For your freedom and ours’. If you have not already read it then please look it up.
We should not lesion to the opinions of so few poorly educated people and there xenophobic beliefs. I for one were my puma Poland jersey (I need a new one but I love that one) with pride just like the rest of you to every game I watch.

in the words of drewski go Poland. All hatred stems from fear and jealousy. keep the wins coming and the world will be begging for our players.

Posted from  United Kingdom

I don’t understand the commentator of the Lech game on the feed I was watching. He made it sound as though a 1-1 draw would be enough to get Lech through. Wouldn’t that make it 3-3 on aggregate with Udinese’s 2 away goals advancing them?

It’s the end of Lech. They lost 2-1 to Udinese.

Oh well, back on hoping for succes of our national team…

Great story Marco, and yes you’re completely right.

bad luck lech poznan but well done on a good fight.

Posted from  United Kingdom

Well some players need to leave Brandowski and Kikut complete trash these two. Murawski and Wilk should be sold to bring in some pacy more skillful players. Maybe with the money get some future prospect players because i cant see these guys getting better.

lech lost but poland still lives with m lewandowski at Shakhtar Donetsk

Posted from  United Kingdom

Marco i just hope my gf develops such a love for Poland

With all respect to Lech, who i think fought hard and play good football, it was just a matter of time. They need a couple more quality players. The problem is that in order for them to progress in Europe they need money and in order to make the money they need to sell, and that of course, is a viscous cycle. I actually agree with Chester, Murawski and Wilk could fetch a decent price and the funds could be used to build. But of course, Stilic will go in the summer, whether we like it or not.

M. Lewandowski is a better player then i gave him credit for. Over the first leg in the Ukraine, he was very impressive, spraying the ball, being in the right place. At white hart lane he was booked with an early yellow and couldn’t stick into tackles the way he no doubt would like. But he was decent. He keeps the ball nicely, makes accurate passes. Doesn’t seem to lose his cool. I have more faith in him then i did before.

Also, the problem with Poles is that we have an incessant need to educate others about ourselves ( i do it all the time ) We should be naturally more self confidant, both in football as well as in life. From a “karma” related time-line perspective we have done much MUCH better then many of our neighbours.

Isn’t there a connection between the strength of a national team and the strength of its national league? I know selling players might bring Lech money, but it seems like the league as a whole can’t improve the quality of the teams if they have to keep selling the best players. I mean, there’s not a lot of international talent that is dying to play in Poland like England, France, Italy, etc. What do you guys think?

Adas, in my opinion, yes but not entirely. I think if you have a good domestic league you have a much larger pool of talent to draw upon for your national team. But, on the other hand, you can farm out talent to other leagues and still end up with a formidable NT; ie; Czech Republic, Serbia. I think that in our case we have to rely more on outsourcing for several more years until our financial/infrastructure situation improves via the 2012 Euros, and then hopefully the residual benefits will fuel the domestic league.

Keep your heads up Lech.We are proud of you.

The quality in postings at this blog about life and football was unexpected,obviously you guys know your shit about football and some of the personal posts show you know a lot about life also.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts

Go Poland

Posted from  United States

Michal Z, that’s true. But eventually you can’t just depend on farming out talent. Especially when you can argue that a talented Polish player may not get the best opportunity simply because he is Polish.

Adas, a fine balance is what is necessary in our case. Keeping all our hot prospects in-league will not allow them to progress to the degree they could potentially abroad because we lack the state of the art facilities and coaching staff. Sending too many abroad makes our league talentless and limits our chances in club competition (which in turn improves player experience itself) so, i guess, a combination of both is necessary. As for Polish players not getting a chance because they are Polish, i think this may be a case of self-piety to a certain degree. yes, maybe in Germany, because of obvious reasons. But to suggest that a Dutch club, or French club, or English club, would spend 3-4 million euro to have a dude scratch his balls on the bench is crazy. Football these days above else is a business. If the player possesses the talent, he will play. (except in Ebis case)

I agree with most of what you say. I live in the states, so I don’t know. Most of the soccer coverage I see is done by British people. It just seems like they don’t have too much to say about Poland or its players. Again, I don’t really know, because they want to talk about the best players in the world period. It just seems to me like outside of Poland, there’s very little respect for the players. I can’t say that I know for certain though.

Adas, I think that you are right, and that outside of Poland there is little respect for Polish players, but that is simply because they/we have done little in the last ten years to merit it. Rasiak and Saganowski are championship players, Smolarek doesn’t seem to cut it, and the rest of our players play in what the British regard as lower leagues. yes, the Bundesliga is better then the the Polish league, but far from the Premier league standard. That’s why my friend, it is such a pleasure to watch Lech in Europe as well as the lads we have abroad in Europe playing teams. But i think that if we wait, things will improve.

I am French with Polish roots and can confirm you that Obraniak is a very talented player with typical polish physical qualities : he is very very powerful and has very good shooting skills.
Lille is an ambitious club to be rankec between the 3rd and the 5th rank.
Presumably, he will join soon top clubs like Olympic Lyon.