Humiliation In Tallin. Wisla Krakow Eliminated.

I have never liked Wisla much as I lived in the part of Krakow that liked Cracovia, but must say that generally I have followed the team as they have historically been much stronger and more entertaining to watch. The game against the Estonians is an absolute disgrace and a complete travesty to professional football………………… than again if no real professionals nor for that matter anyone with any intellectual ability towards business, economics, or at least a talent towards so called advancement of youth football can be found within our beloved PZPN, this is the kind of results we should get used to. Keep it up retards!!! Thanks Mike

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http://sport.onet.pl/74327.1,1248702,2013532,wiadomosc.html
good news for Majewski
Wisla Krakow just needs to rebuild the team isnt getting any better they need a flip over.

Someone in the last post said it perfectly, “I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.” Its hard to argue those bullshit ratings that came out when our champions get their asses handed to them by a team I have never heard of either.

That could be the problem. Wisla underestimated their opponent. You can talk about skill, money or whatever other excuse they have come up with. But at the end of the day the team that wants it more will play harder for the win. Wisla did not show that they wanted it more than the other team. My only regret is that the next generation of youngsters have to grow up looking up at these semi professional jerk offs.

As for Majewski, I expect nothing out of him. This way he won’t disappoint. If you throw crap against a wall one is bound to stick.

http://ekstraklasa.wp.pl/kat,1740,title,Majewski-strzela-w-debiucie,wid,11338296,wiadomosc.html

http://www.nottinghamforest.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10308~1730605,00.html

hmm…

sorry for the multiple posts. Here is a clip of the Wisla game.

http://mundialowo.blox.pl/2009/07/video-Tak-poplynela-Wisla.html

I really thought the result of the first leg would be a wake-up call for Wisla but apparently not. Absolute disgrace.

Eurosport’s claiming that Beenhakker has called up Obraniak, Boruc, Wawrzyniak, and Krychowiak!
http://www.eurosport.pl/pilka-nozna/el-m-2010/2008/obraniak-i-boruc-do-kadry_sto2009669/story.shtml
OBRANIAK we already knew about, and it was obvious that BORUC wouldn’t be shut out for too long. WAWRZYNIAK’s surprise nomination is due to the fact that the Greek authorities failed to record his suspension in the player’s certificate, so there’s still a chance he could be available. I’m glad to see KRYCHOWIAK as he’s supposedly a huge talent (Bordeaux fans who’ve seen him agree on this). The only problem is that he has no hope of playing this season… Krychowiak was not one of the youth that Bordeaux decided to promote this season, he was sent back to the reserves after only a week… His only hope is if some club offers to take him on loan, but so far no word on any interest from Ligue 2. But there’s still time, he could probably find a club in the Ekstraklasa.

MISKIEWICZ was handed the number one shirt but it doesn’t appear to mean much, the Italian media refers to him as Chievo’s third choice keeper. AUGUSTYN played 45 minutes in today’s friendly. He’s apparently 4th choice CB so it’s unlikely he’ll get a chance in Serie A this season but with a couple injuries anything’s possible I guess…

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Thanks for video clip a. Wisla really missed their chances even more than the good play by the Levadia goal keeper. Did they think they could just walk it in? … all those chances, …a couple lame headers, they couldn’t let go in front of the net, and the Wisla goalie (was it Cebanu or Pawelek?) should have made that save on the set piece – he was there. It is difficult not to think there must still be some corruption; a lot of the play doesn’t look reasonable for professionals even of the Ekstraklasa. To look so tentative to score and a goalie seemingly knocking it in for the Estonians, makes me at least consider whether they ‘threw’ the game.

What a disgrace!! maybe the ranking of 77th is correct.
The ekstraklasa is a shit league and we should accept it as a fact.
No wonder the NT team plays poor when half of the players play semi-pro football.
Lewandowski and any other young talent should get the hell out – anywhere but Ekstraklasa.

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Wisla did not get their asses handed to them. The stats say it all. Levadia was praying just to make it through the first leg 0-0, but Jop gifted them a goal. They only had to play for a 0-0 draw at home. You can’t even compare the level of play between Wisla and Levadia!!!!! Wisla beat Barca last year 1-0 and played two very good legs against Tottenham Hotspur. That was good, real football. When a team like Wisla plays against Levadia, the lesser team doesn’t play real football, they play strategy games and hope for the best. This time it worked out for Levadia, I hand it to the Estonian champs I”m not saying they don’t deserve it. Wisla hit a post in each leg and dominated possession and the play. Anyone who watched the games or can read a stat line knows that. Anything can happen in a game of football that’s why they play the bloody games. All you Poles or whoever else comes on here and talks smack about the Polish league and NT, go cheer for Germany, it seems like the popular thing to do these days. I’m all for constructive criticism, and yah, lately some of the clubs and the NT are in need of a good talking to. But this unreal pessimism pisses me off. I couldn’t care less if I”m the last bloody man standing by these Polish teams.

Wisla < 0

When the Lithuanian champs beat us I didnt think it could get worse, well it got worse. Now do you see what type of players Leo has to choose from. They lost to a team that plays there home games at a high school and has part time players who drink vodka, oh sorry the last part was for the Polish players, if you want to call them that.

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What people forget here about is that Wisla is a crappy team that got lucky winning the league because the other challengers massively bottled it. I didn’t expect anything else from them really, in fact I find this hilarious. Lech Poznan would’ve done a much better job.

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Beenhakker’s preliminary list of 31 players who might be called up against Greece (the final group of 18-20 players will be chosen in a week):

KEEPERS:
Artur Boruc (Celtic FC)
Łukasz Fabiański (Arsenal FC)
Sebastian Przyrowski (Polonia Warszawa)
Łukasz Załuska (Celtic FC)

DEFENDERS:
Bartosz Bosacki (Lech Poznań)
Dariusz Dudka (AJ Auxerre)
Paweł Golański (Steaua Bukarest)
Tomasz Jodłowiec (Polonia Warszawa)
Marcin Komorowski (Legia Warszawa)
Piotr Polczak (Cracovia)
Jakub Rzeźniczak (Legia Warszawa)
Marcin Wasilewski (RSC Anderlecht)
Jakub Wawrzyniak (Legia Warszawa)
Michał Żewłakow (Olympiakos)

MIDFIELDERS:
Tomasz Bandrowski (Lech Poznań)
Jakub Błaszczykowski (Borussia Dortmund)
Roger (Legia Warszawa)
Grzegorz Krychowiak (FC Girondins de Bordeaux)
Jacek Krzynówek (Hannover 96)
Mariusz Lewandowski (Shakhtar Donetsk)
Rafał Murawski (Rubin Kazań)
Ludovic Obraniak (Lille OSC)
Łukasz Trałka (Polonia Warszawa)
Jakub Wilk (Lech Poznań)
Wojciech Łobodziński (Wisła Kraków)

FORWARDS:
Paweł Brożek (Wisła Kraków)
Ireneusz Jeleń (AJ Auxerre)
Robert Lewandowski (Lech Poznań)
Marek Saganowski (Southampton FC)
Euzebiusz Smolarek (Real Racing Club de Santander)
Łukasz Sosin (Anorthossis).

No Piszczek who plays in the starting line up of a top Bundesliga club? Instead he names players like Wilk, Tralka, Lobodzinski, Komorowski, Sosin, half of whom can’t even make the starting 11 at a Polish club.. yet we’re supposed to believe they’re “international level”? Tralka, he’s had plenty of chances and shown nothing, enough already! Stop rewarding mediocrity and give someone else a chance.
The Piszczek omission is definitely a strange one, it’s not like Poland has tons of players who play at a decent level. And how the hell did Sosin get picked over Janczyk! Isn’t Sosin close to retirement and playing in Cyprus (a “country” of less than a million people, do they even have a professional league)? It’s good to see Obraniak and Krychowiak in contention. Other than that, same old same old. Simply rewarding mediocrity as Leo likes to do.

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I agree that Piszczek and Janczyk should be there over Tralka, Sosin etc…but keep in mind, this is a friendly. Lets just hope he makes the right choices for the Sep games against NI.

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You’re right though, Radek, its a friendly – exactly the reason why Janczyk should get called up. We know he’s never going to get playing time during an actual qualifying match anytime soon, so why not give him the experience now. Piszczek should really be there instead of Tralka, guy’s a joke.

Well I think it’s a wasted opportunity. Friendlies should be used to test out new players and new ideas (especially important for the Polish NT since our regulars can’t even win against countries only a tiny fraction our size..)

Legia and Polonia Warsaw both advanced today without any problems.

Szczesny played 45 minutes in one of Arsenal’s friendlies a couple days ago. It appears he’s challenging Mannone for the position of third choice goalkeeper. Still I think it would be better if he went out on loan to a club where he’d play regularly.

Salamon and Augustyn played again for Brescia and Catania, 45 minutes each.
As I’ve mentioned before, Krychowiak is not involved at all in Bordeaux’s pre-season preparations… If he wants to be be on Beenhakker’s final list for the friendly against Greece, he needs to find another club.

The Greek anti-doping clowns have extended Wawrzyniak’s suspension to two years. For taking a substance that’s not on the World Doping Agency’s banned list? Seems like overkill to me. Apparently he’s planning to appeal to a court in Lausanne.

Apparently there’s some speculation that Borussia’s planning to use Blaszczykowski as a striker this season…

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Well one good thing about the squad is that we wont have to worry about France calling up Obraniak anymore.

I agree with everyone that Tralka, Wilk, Lobodzinski ans Sosin shouldn’t have got call ups. Instead it would have been nice to see something like, Piszczek, Rafal Grzelak(why does everyone always forget about him?), Janczyk, and at least one of those U-21 players that were suppose to get call ups last time(Grosicki, Glik, Malecki).

About Wawrzyniak all I can say is seriously what the fuck? Two years? For a substance that isn’t banned everywhere? I’d understand something like he can’t play in Greece for two years but does the shitty Greek anti-doping shit seriously have so much power they can completely ban players? If I was in the PZPN I would seriously pick out a few random Greek players say they are now banned from playing for three years because they had multi-vitamins, just so they can see how ridiculous the ban is.

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Did you guys see the goal by Mierzejewski of Polonia. http://mundialowo.blox.pl/2009/07/video-Legia-i-Polonia-graja-dalej.html

Maciej Skorża deserves to be fired. He led his team to believe that the game was going to be easy. He failed to prepare his team for an important game.

Completely agree with “a” here, Skorza is a bad coach. Peope here should stop thinking that Wisla’s hilarious defeat is ’cause the Ekstraklasa is so crap.

And why is Beenhakker still our coach, exactly?

It is all Skorza’s fault. Wisla was the better team in every single way. If the reason for why they didnt perform is the Ekstraklasa then explain why Legia and Polonia are doing so well so far and Lech’s run last year.

Hieronim – I do not know what you are talking about cheering for Germany.
I have never seen that proposed in any of the blogs and a true Pole would never cheer for any other NT but Polska let alone Germany.

But back to the main point – the crap called Ekstraklasa.
If people think “success” is beating a team from Andorra or Georgia then we have truly hit bottom. I hold Polish soccer at a high regard, I thought at the very least the ektraklasa was equal to the Bulgarian,Czech, Romanian, Ausrian, or Swiss.
But losing to an Estonian team that looks like it plays in a city park not a real stadium then I am sorry but I will not sit there and say it was just bad luck or one bad game.
The first game Wisla should have lost but got lucky in the 90+3 minute.
Then they do not have the “luck” to beat them in a must win game.
I do not care if they controlled the game.
Did they win? did they advance? NO! & NO!
Give me a break, they should not be supported but booed all the way home. I do not accept this kind of soccer from any Polish team.
If Lech or another team advance to the group stage and at least one game beyond THEN that will be success for Polish soccer.

Posted from  United States

JZ, you’re overreacting, big time. Wisla is a crap team, with a terrible coach. It was obvious they won’t get any further in the CL, especially since they didn’t sign any real reinforcements.

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Tomek – but you said it (Wisla) the ekstraklasa champion is a crap team so what does that make the league?
I agree with you that Lech would have done a much better job. This year is the easiest road to CL group stage and we stumbled out of the blocks.
What is sad is that I thought Wisla was going to get into the group stage.
Any way I will stop about the ekstraklasa.

I am looking forward to the friendly against Greece.

Zaraza – excellent updates keep them coming.
I agree with you about Piszczek, I still support Leo but that is a strange omission.

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